Thoughts on loli & lolicon?
and, if you're able to answer the question above what're your thoughts on paedophiles & paedophilia?
pic somewhat related.
Lolicon -- Generally harmless.
Pedophiles -- There's two kinds of Pedophiles. The ones that fuck children, and the ones that don't. The former are criminals. The latter are fine. Thoughts aren't crimes.
>>3893
My thoughts are weird, it's ok if they don't look 100% like humans
I won't comment on the later question
I don’t really have an issue with pedophiles
>pedophile
The proper term is MAP anon
Lolicons are just pedos in denial you weebs do realize that ロリコン is the Japanese word for pedophile/pedophilia right?
>>3908
This i hate the word pedophile because of how negative it is and too many people think pedophile = rapist which is not always true.
Anon only loves 2D-loli. Real children are annoying and nasty little buggers.
Loli and lolicon: Based. The superior fetish both in potential of the core concepts and in average execution in fictional media.
Pedophiles and pedophilia: While I most certainly do not approve of the act of pedophilia, one thing that I have never forgotten was a reddit post where a person vented about their attraction to children. They described it like it was a curse, they hated being attracted to children and they hated the way they were treated by any who knew and having to constantly suppress that part of themselves, never being able to truly embrace the sexual part of themselves like everyone else. It left me feeling terrible for that person and any who are cursed with this and constantly repress it and worried how many pedophiles are not just sick people but repressed people who couldn't keep up the struggle anymore. Needless to say, it added a bit of complication to the situation and left me hoping that these people could be helped in some way so this wouldn't be a problem for them but they still wouldn't go after children.
To discuss the opposition for loli, I would like to first post a link to a very relevant video with most points made in it being ones I agree with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLDUfMWmRAA
To oppose loli art is, in my opinion, not only unreasonably stupid but if such fools had their way it would very likely lead to horrible consequences that they never wanted. It would backfire terribly. While many like to say "loli is a gateway", that falls apart when scrutinized even slightly. Loli is not a gateway, if anything, it is a deterrent, a fix for those who need it but (obviously) cannot get it in real life. Simply put, the pedophiles who suppress their urges for the well-being of others and themselves are people too and they need something to satisfy or at least keep those urges at bay. If such suppressors of natural urges were to be eradicated what then would they have left? If they can't have fictional children to sate them what else is there? Real children. And obviously nobody wants real children getting raped, seduced, kidnapped, etc. So why suggest something that could lead to such terrible consequences? It makes no sense unless those consequences are the intention and if so then it's people attacking loli who deserve the scrutiny and anger.
Furthermore, the idea that loli art is a gateway really gives away how little faith the people saying these things have in people's ability to differentiate between fiction and reality and, if anything, signals that they themselves must have very little ability to do so. And if that's the case then it's more of a reason for such people to be completely disregarded on many matters that require such thought and scrutiny as this.
And one more point though it is perhaps slightly unrelated: if loli art leaves people concerned over pedophilia then why is shota not equally condemned? Any one male character in an anime can be a lolicon and people hate his guts, now more so than ever since so many people "like" anime. But when a female character is a lolicon or even a shotacon everyone is fine with it or even celebrates it. Just look at the popularity of Lucoa. She practically introduced countless posers to shotacon and for a while you couldn't escape that kink, it was everywhere. And nobody had a problem with it then, they just spammed their "ara ara neesan" memes over and over but only when the character in question is a male on a little girl then they pick up the "fbi open up" larp again. It screams out the blatant double standards for genders and how much women can get away with. I shouldn't continue further because it's getting off-topic but one last detail to further prove my point: see how many people comment "nice" when an attractive female pedophile rapes a little boy.
That said, that's all of the points I can think of to raise about loli at the moment. I'm only passionate about it because the dissent is stupid in every possible way lacking thought, experience, and even faith for the most basic of things in other people while also reflecting flaws in the person condemning it.
Also the "fbi open up" meme was funny when it wasn't used seriously, now it's just another one of those "stop liking what i don't like" type of memes, which are the opposite of what made the internet fun.
don't care about fictional stuff anymore, but children are still supreme porn.
Lolicon - They're fictional drawings, not actual children no matter how much Twitter screeches that it's the same. Still kinda fucked though.
Pedophilia - Those who act on their pedophilia and actually fuck kids? Yeah, they are fucking criminals. Those who don't? Still pretty fucked.
>>3932
Lolicons are pedos dumbass it is literally the Japanese word for pedophile/pedophilia. Just because it is fiction doesn't mean you aren't a pedo that is a super mega cope. Also why do you care? If they haven't touched any real life kids who gives a fucking shit.
don't you think i'm cute, anon?
it is weird
Personally, i don’t think it’s wrong to be attracted to lolis. Acting on a real life child is wrong.
Between 1800 and 2000 life expectancy at birth rose from about 30 years to a global average of 67 years - This a big thing when it comes to being naturally attracted to younger people. Toddlercon … umm I don’t know how it is attractive, since they always smell like pee but as long as you’re not acting on it in rl. IT probably helps so many people that have access to lolicon to keep them from acting out on their fantasies too.
I’m a 27yr F. I didn’t grow up in a good home and I have always sought out attention. I started masturbating at 7 and having sex at 14 but would have done it way sooner if I was given the chance. I watch lolicon to sometimes get off because I like thinking of how much I enjoyed it when I was younger. I’m still attracted to the same loli characters I had a crushes on in elementary/middle school.
I’m rambling at this point but my whole point is; it shouldn’t matter what you’re into as long as you are not acting out on it :3
>>3938
>I’m a 27yr F. I didn’t grow up in a good home and I have always sought out attention. I started masturbating at 7 and having sex at 14
GET THE FUCK OUT WHORE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>3944
Women can't be NEETs especially sluts like you who started fucking at 14 and are just total attention whores. There is no such thing as a fucking Fembot or Femcel because all women either lose their virginity while still underage or directly right after they turn 18 and even if they do exist they are VERY RARE. Roasties like you are why /r9k/ went to shit around 2015/2016 and why every Robot/Incel/NEET community is full of attention whoring women now. GET THE FUCK OUT WHORE AND KILL YOURSELF YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE YOU DISGUSTING UGLY WHORE I HOPE A INCEL KILLS YOU.
>>3938
>life expectancy at birth rose from about 30 years to a global average of 67 years
That was because of the high rate of child mortality. People easily reached their 70s after surviving their childhood. But you're still right with the fact that girls married at like 14-16. No such thing like age of consent back then...
>>3946
>When did this board became incel infested?
NEET boards have always had a large amount of incel/robot posters you newfag now get the fuck out you disgusting whore.
>>3948
Calibrate your detectors, fren. And don't act like a jerk, just because you're on an imageboard. This ain't 4cancer.
>>3949
I can be a jerk to sex having normalfag sluts if i want to people like you aren't welcomed here. You're basically a normalfag coming into neckbeard weeaboo basement dweller NEET land. which is one of the reasons 4chan went to shit.
>>3951
I like you too, "oldfag". :3
>>3948
And they're probably one of the worst parts. Incels are shallow.
I can only tolerate vocels. I don't like sex havers either because you can't be one without also being a massive normalfag.
Don't feed it attention
>3938
Not even giving you the (You). Get the fuck out, normie scum.
Op here, loli is based and red pilled as is pedophilia but the word has such a negative connotation and MAPs are cringe faggots.
>>3979
Anon would second that. Polite sage.
https://easypeasymethod.org/
rather the company of actual pedophiles compared to incels like way above.
>>3938
I like loli for a lot of the same reasons, I'm 25f. I was groomed by multiple old men and looking at it is kinda comforting. I have a really big fetish for size difference now too.. I self insert as the loli. I also began masturbating really early but I lost my virginity to an ojiisan
Lolicon isn't really bad in any sense, but I don't think being a lolicon or whatever is good. Porn addiction is extraordinarily unhealthy, and even hentai addiction is very unhealthy. I'm not anti-porn, but I'm also not pro-addiction.
>>3893
I like masturbating to little anime girls. I don't care and don't need justification for that
>>3938
>>4050
Hello, ladies. It's rare to come across femanons who are open about these things so I have a few questions [you don't have to answer if it's too personal]:
- How did you react to these early sexual experiences?
Did you like it, did you internalize it and considered it a shameful thing to do, did you hate yourself for being sexually active, did you develop loli fetish because of these experiences, etc.?
- Did your early sexual experiences [and being in relationship with old men in case of the other anon] caused long lasting problems and influenced how you are and what you've become [NEET]?
- Do you regret having early sexual experiences and wish things were different?
- Do your parents know about any of this, and how did they react to your sexual experiences?
To the anon in >>4050, why did you go after old men [probably despite told not to] and how and when did you realize that you were being groomed by old men?
I hope things are better now.
sex and sexuality are wrong.
We are on Earth to practice our free-will so that we can grow into the complete souls that we're meant to be. sex is the opposite of free-will. Only soulless golems have sex. The Sons of God wouldn't waste their time with female golems, or any golems at all.
>>4098
> why did you go after old men
Because she was probably a retarded promiscuous slutty teenage normalfag.
Loli is love and cuteness, but shotacon is just plain wrong and sick!
meme for soyboy incels
being into boys or sometimes girls requires culture. and having sex.
2D lolis are all fine. It's literally just fictional art.
With pedos it's like with rapists:
If it arouses you, it's like whatever, if it you act on it, it's a criminal offense.
Many people phantasize about murdering someone, like their neighbor or boss, or whoever, but they never act on it, and people don't really care.
Even better: don't tell anyone. Thoughts and phantasies are victimless.
I'm not really into it myself (more of a MILF man) but I am a pedo-ally as most of the research done by non-Jews found that pedophilia is benign: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rind_et_al._controversy
Also if you fap to loli, you are a pedo, precisely like how someone who faps to yaoi is a gay.
>>3927
>While many like to say "loli is a gateway", that falls apart when scrutinized even slightly
loli IS a gateway... to censorship. The main justification for censoring people on a new social media platform is rarely racism or even gore porn: people posting child porn. It's time and again held up as the primary reason why we "must" have censorship. It's fucking disgusting.
I hope more people wake up.
I'm monitoring this thread.
>>3893
>Thoughts on loli & lolicon?
I think it's the peak of aesthetic sophistication.
>thoughts on paedophiles & paedophilia?
I think it's the opposite, but because it's an attraction to 3d, not because of age, which I don't think matters very much. And of course, 3d sex is peak normalfaggotry, so just put 2 and 2 together.
Lolicon: obviously okay. Also anyone who gets triggered over drawings clearly is turned on by them.
Pedosexuals: using my patented 6 step program, I will explain why pedosexuality is okay.
1) it's not a choice. It's as natural as being a faggot (and it's no secret about the overlap between gays and pedos). Have you ever looked at pedosexual porn as a nonpedo? The experience is quite similar to looking at homosexual porn as a nonhomo. We know some people are wired with weird sexualities, and nearly everything else is socially acceptable by now. Don't think the trend will stop here.
2) kids can consent. The first word most kids learn is literally "no", and even from birth, it's trivial for the most autistic sociopath to determine whether a child is enjoying something or not. Ever try to make a 3 year old do something they don't want to do like eat their vegetables? They make their lack of consent VERY clear. Of course, it's not like anyone gives a shit about children's consent in any context except sex though... How many kids really "consent" to going to school? I'd argue school has done more damage to more kids than sex ever could.
3) kids are sexual. Infants will start exploring their genitals. I'm sure most of us discovered porn in the single digits. All over the world and throughout human history children "play doctor" with each other and explore their sexuality. We just don't like to think about it because, if you're not a pedosexual, the very idea will make you cringe. Not unlike how a truly straight person reacts to two men making out in public. This putting aside that children are maturing faster than ever and now have more access to porn than their parents do.
4) sex is safer with an experienced adult. Kids don't know what the fuck they're doing, and young boys in particular are notoriously violent and reckless. This might result in great sex for shota-loving MILFs, but it's actually not ideal for young girls. They need to be taught by someone who is capable of fucking her gently, not some virgin horndog. Also if you're really worried about physical damage, young people are far more resilient than old people anyway. It's just safer no matter how you look at it.
5) women have value beyond their hymen intactness. Ever wonder why ONLY the hyper-rich seem to be allowed to fuck young girls, while the rest of us poors are supposed to be content with used up hags? That's because throughout human history, the ONLY value women had was her virginity, and that value is nerfed for the hyper-rich because they refuse to fuck people that other people already fucked. And because that was her only value, this means if she had sex as a young girl her life was basically ruined. She'd never be able to find a loving husband now! Fortunately we threw that paradigm away in the 1960s (which is also when pedophiles we're proudly part of the LGBT rights movement). That's why it makes parents angry when their daughter gets laid, but proud when their son does.
6) forcing pedosexuals into the shadows only increases the risk. What happens when we criminalized prostitution or drug manufacture? Did these ancient industries suddenly disappear and make the world a safer place? No! The exact opposite happens! Why would this be any different with criminalizing pedosexuality? After all, it's an inmate biological urge many people seem to have. You can't legislate it away, and fear of punishment only serves to make pedos better at hiding. The best disinfectant is sunlight. Name one other time the government making laws about who you can and can't have sex with resulted in positive outcomes. I'll wait.
Any questions? 80 year old female btw
Loli and young women in general are objectively inferior to cougars/MILFs/mommy gfs. Anyone who prefers women under 30 has no taste and should kill himself immediately for his crimes against humanity
imagine watching japanese wageslaves instead of their source inspiration material
>loli & lolicon
I think that and shotacon are gross but I like the furry version
>pedophilia
That's gross, I don't care if others do it as long as their subjects are not being traumatized for life
You people are fucking disgusting pedo, incels.
Have sex with women your own age.
>>13215
yes, that's usually how it goes: https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/12/12/11-anti-gay-preachers-who-got-caught-doing-very-gay-things/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_federal_politicians_convicted_of_crimes
>>13250
Why is this phenomenon so robust? Good question! My theory is that A) being vocally anticrime/sex/etc it's the perfect cover for committing crimes/fucking children/etc and B) it's allows for moral licensing i.e. they feel less guilty for engaging in them because they spent so much time and energy preventing others from doing it. Also C) the taboo of the double life makes it kinkier/more fun
>>13186
You people are fucking disgusting cougarchaser, incels.
Have sex with women your own age.
FLAT IS JUSTICE! And it ain't gonna go flatter than 2D.
>>13293
Scholarly question: do dakimakuras count as 2D? Or does "2D" necessitate the virtual life inside of a screen?
>>13318
No. Real kids are disgusting. Anon only adores art. But nice trigger, newfriend.
Wow, no one has any critiques on my post here? >>13178
You guys are more based than I thought! Thank you for your tacit approval
>>13320
Yes, we’re all based here.
Since this is the most based board on the internet, can you guys help spark some life into lolichan.org?
>>13287
Except I don't see any of them actually getting laid let alone reproducing any time soon - talk is cheap
>>13399
What? Everyone knows most antinatalists have a breeding kink. Same with most antigay senators fucking gigolos. It's called the Law of Taboo: when you make something taboo, people naturally want to do it more. It's kinda like the Streisand Effect. Yes, this also applies to pedos, which is why pedosexuality should be relegalized (it was completely legal and socially acceptable throughout most of human history)
>>13416
Actions speak louder than words; anti-natalists are too soy to be spreading their seed
>>13421
uh, so? you can still have a breeding kink without actually having sex with fertile women, just like you have a loli kink without actually having sex with kids (hopefully)
>>3893
>Thoughts on loli
there hot
icunny.co
Lolis are cute and would make good friends if transhumanism makes our waifus a reality, But I would like a lucoa-type mommy waifu with big milkies that lactate banana flavored milk. a nine year old loli would be a senpai compared to me especially when my 7 year old big boy tard rage kicks in but that can easily be mitigated with mommy's maternal muffler!
>REEEEEEeeemmmmMMMMMMFFFFFFF......