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what do you do all day No.5239

where are my fellow 'do nothing'ers at. lol wassup gang we wasting our lives 100 emoji fire emoji

seriously though doing stuff is so lame and takes so much effort how do any of you do it

No.5241

>seriously though doing stuff is so lame and takes so much effort how do any of you do it
I don't! Doing things, actually important and productive things is really hard, so most of my time is spent watching yt, browsing imageboards, listening to music etc. I think doing literally nothing would probably be harder than doing something productive (pic rel)

No.5242

>>5239
You will be happier if you start doing things. It feels really good when I learn something new and manage to put it to use. Doing absolutely nothing makes me super depressed.

No.5245

>>5241
Wouldn't just doing nothing be meditation? That's pretty hard, but I don't think it's harder than being productive...

>>5242
I really really want to! Yesterday I played a game for like 2 hours and it was so exhausting that I slept for 16.

No.5246

You need a dopamine detox. It's hard, but your chase for quick dopamine from reading threads and watching videos is causing it. It can be mitigated with time. I've gotten a lot better at it.

No.5248

>>5246
This. So many sad NEETs think a job would fix them when all they really need is a dopamine detox. Jobs only make you better at hiding your problems and in fact often exacerbate them.

No.5250

basically all i do is play vidya and browse internets. that's literally all i do for the most part.

No.5251

>>5248
Dopamine won't give me a house or food when "that one person" dies, etc.

No.5254

>>5248
so how do i dopamine detox. should i just stare at the wall for a month?

No.5255

>>5251
Sounds like you are making excuses for not confronting your addiction and undergoing a dopamine detox. That actually should be a priority before getting a job, even if you're homeless.

Also to answer OP's question:
>Watching YouTube
>Arguing on the internet
>Developing video games
>Errands/chores/cooking

I gotta cut back on the YouTube myself. It's pretty hilarious that people think porn addiction is a more serious problem than YouTube addiction. After you orgasm all desire to look at porn evaporates and that usually takes 30 minutes, tops. On the other hand, it's easy to waste 5 hours sidewatching streamers while half-assing some other task or game. YouTube also has the problem of some vids being genuinely informative, which gives you the illusion you're not wasting your time. Compounding matters further, it even has the best and least moderated comment section of all normie sites. And of course, you can passively watch YouTube in the living room without headphones, making it that much easier to consume than porn. Because of all this, way more harm is done by YouTube addiction than porn addiction.

The truth is that a tiny fraction of the people who claim to be addicted to porn are legitimately addicted. The rest of them are merely ashamed about what they fap to because they're coping christfags. Hope none of you guys fell for the nofap meme.

No.5256

>>5254
I have to literally unplug my modem. They call it a dopamine detox for the alliteration, but it's really an information technology detox. You're not really supposed to cut yourself off from other dopamine-generation sources like exercise or food.

No.5257

>>5256
would stuff like games and books and anime be okay? Or would I have to cut those out as well?

No.5277

>>5255
>Hope none of you guys fell for the nofap meme.
Have I? I haven't masturbated in 3 weeks now, but not because of anything like that, simply because I just don't have the energy to, I can't be bothered, even if I wanna.

No.5281

>>5277
If you don't wanna it's not like you should force yourself.

No.5282

>>5257
It depends what your goal is. If your goal was to stop shitposting 24/7 and watching youtube all day long videos to have better focus when playing video games or watching anime without getting the urge to do something else after 2 minutes then that is fine, but otherwise it's just a replacement and not an actual detox.
If you want to learn a skill you'll need to cut down on everything. Go for a walk, and sit down and work on that skill without any excuses or timewasters.

No.5285

>>5282
Thank you for your advice anon!

No.5316

>>5239
>Listen to music
>Daydream
>Masturbate
That's how I have been living for so many years, I lost count.

No.5325

>>5257
Excellent question. It really depends on the type of game and how you're playing it.

Pretty much anything that's competitive, real-time, and close to purely skill-based is fine. Most shooters, sports games, racing games, fighting games, dancing games, & RTS games will be fine. You should not be playing against bots though. On the other hand, any type of game where grinding is a viable option is a no, like basically all F2P games, RPGs (including action RPGs), and obviously all types of MMOs. It's debatable but I'd stay away from any games with a single-player focus including immersive sim shooters, TRPGs, open-world games,simulation games, VNs, puzzle games, and platformers. Humans naturally get dopamine from beating other people in competitive games, therefore there is usually less time spent in development making sure the player is constantly receiving dopamine hits through new meaningful new items/unlocks. That said, I'd say something like CS:GO or TF2 are okay despite being F2P and having unlocks because all the unlocks are side-grades or cosmetic i.e. don't meaningfully make you win more without getting more skilled. Something like the Battlefield series wouldn't be great because I think the unlocks are objectively better than the default weapons so unlocking them is more akin to grinding. When you grind you're just getting better by putting in time, rather than putting in practice.

Which brings me to "how you're playing it." It's passive entertainment like TV and pseudopassive entertainment like MMOs that lead to a fucked up dopamine circuit. You're SUPPOSED to receive dopamine from practicing at something. Therefore really all video games are acceptable during a dopamine detox provided you're not just doing a casual playthrough. You can speedrun any game if you really want to play through singleplayer games, you just have to take it seriously. Go watch some speedrunning documentaries if you don't get what I mean by that. Point is, like with competitive action-oriented games, you'll be earning the dopamine you receive.

Even though maintaining focus while reading can be difficult (especially if your reward circuit is fucked up) books still are classified as passive entertainment. So no, books are 100% not okay. And unlike the text you read in a JRPG, you have zero agency and there is zero thinking involved. You can't "practice" reading a book. All you can really do is consume it multiple times. To be clear, this means staying away from fiction, non-fiction, magazines, newspapers, and graphic novels. Maybe exclusively scientific journal articles would be okay because you really can "get better at" reading those and they definitely require stopping every few paragraphs to critically think about the content. Though even with that you have to be honest with yourself about why you're want to read it. One way people get so addicted to passive media that they require a dopamine detox is they are trying to drown out their thoughts. Even if you were reading nothing but nutrition facts and ingredient lists, that wouldn't be okay.

Good luck! It really is way harder than most people think it will be.

No.5326
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>>5277
well no because it wasn't the nofap meme that got you to do it. just be careful. I thought I could go without jacking off too because I didn't feel like it, but I soon realized if I went too long with jacking off I would get more emotional and even start simping. I didn't even realize I was doing it, it took a friend to point it out to me. just watch for that

No.5332

>>5325
I get the trend of what you mean. So I should avoid easy dopamine and passive entertainment, and only do things that make me work and put in effort to achieve the dopamine? Actually, just thinking about things gives me dopamine to be honest...
>Good luck!
Thank you!!

It's nice to know i'm not alone in my life-wasting ways, but I believe all of you can achieve alot if you really want to!

>>5255
Yeah I waste alot of time watching youtube videos... It's weird that people put so much emphasis on porn addiction, I honestly feel the effect of that on my brain is pretty negligible compared to imageboards/social media and youtube.
>it even has the best and least moderated comment section of all normie sites.
Honestly youtube comment sections are really underrated. Depending on which channel you're on, you can find lots of really cool comments. I watch a channel called Nicob sometimes, and his comment section is always filled with really great stuff. Insights about the games he's playing, analysis, fun trivia, as well as funny comments.

No.5380

i did nothing again today but somethings missing

i need to find that thing before i can do anything. i dont even know what that feeling means and its annoying but i feel anxious that im missing something and i need to find it before i can move onto anything else

No.5570

>>5256
Kind of wondering what neets did all day before the internet. Maybe internet addiction is at the root of all our problems and without it we'd all turn back into normies.

No.5580

right now i am pretty comfy playing elden ring, its easy to lose days in invasions if i dont focus too hard, yeah..

No.5581

>>5316
what do you daydream of anon?

No.15133

bump.

No.15134

old necrobumped thread, ignore

No.15138

i'll be hustling in mmos and crypto all day soon
now im still 420