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drugs No.5985

Have you ever used drugs, or do you use them currently? I just ordered DXM.

No.5986

I rarely drink.

No.5990

No, but I wanna. How do I get drugs?

No.5991

>>4027
Drug thread also.

No.5992

>>5991
Damn I didn’t know, sorry

No.5997

I'm trying to rid my life of beer and coffee, but I can't say no when I'm offered.
Wish I lived on my own, then I wouldn't have any garbage in my home. I'm trapped with these degenerate niggers that drink "shots" and smoke and curse and have sex.
I don't know why God put me with these retarded faggot niggers.

No.6005

>>5992
I don't care, just thought the content might interest you.

>>5997
I managed to rid my life of alcohol and drugs, but not caffeine. I can temporarily, but even when the tolerance and dependence is gone I just... Know it's refreshing for my mind.

No.6007

Take the white pill: https://robocough.com/

It seriously is a different experience from chugging Robitussin.

You can also buy delta8 legally online or at your local headship. Delta8, unlike CBD, actually does get you fucked up. You can thank Trump for making it federally legal!

No.6030

I like stimulants and opioids

No.6032

>>6030
What specifically? It seems most of the heroin fans I've met don't like doing meth and vice-versa. I've never met anyone who actually enjoys speedballs. They cancel each other out and you just feel fucked up rather than high

No.6075

delta 8 sucks. does not get me high at all.

No.6078

>>6075
How sketchy was the brand? These guys are the most expensive, but I've never heard any complaints from people I recommended them to: https://www.3chi.com/

No.6091

>>6032
Mostly pharmaceuticals and occasionally over the counter shit (benzedrex). Oxycodone, hydrocodone, amphetamines, benzedrex. I've tried meth and heroin a few times but thankfully got away from those bad influences before I became addicted. I've rarely mixed them but I do love the feeling of a speedball or 'pharmball' though, it sounds like it would cancel each other out but it really synergizes very well in my experience.

No.6122

OP here, just took a full bottle of robocough about an hour ago. It’s not fun tbh, I feel dizzy and it’s hard for me to focus on stuff. So far is hasn’t been very fun. Worried I might have a panic attack. This is my first time taking DXM

In addition, the liquid robocough tastes like ass, I gagged multiple times.

No.6125

>>6122
OP here again, I just threw ip

No.6127

Pease help me I do that to have a panic attack

No.6128

I’m tripping

No.6130

Op here, I feel ok now, I think I was just freaked out by the come up.

No.6131

I don’t think I’m going to do this again.

No.6132

>>6122
>>6127
>>6130
>>6131
Panic attacks suck ass. I quit using drugs forever because of them.

No.6134

>>6132
I just don’t get how this is supposed to fun. I’m tripping and all I’m experiencing is dizziness, nausea and anxiety. There was a brief moment where I hallucinated something on the television, that was cool.

No.6137

>>6134
Actually I didn’t hallucinate anything lol

No.6142

OP here. Now since it’s worn off, I can say that, although it was interesting, I don’t think DXM is for me. I threw away my remaining RoboCough bottles.

No.6143

>>6142
Let this thread stand as a warning to impressionable young neets then - don't take dxm.

No.6145

>>6143
it's just comical how there is an entire subreddit dedicated to it with people saying how good it makes them feel and my experience was literally 100% bad

No.6148

>>6134
You lack the sacred CYPD26 enzyme required to enjoy DXM: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9690700/

Only about 1 in 3 people have sufficient quantities of this enzyme to get the pleasureable effects. The rule of thumb is a third of people love dxm, a third had your neutral experience, and a third exclusively have bad trips on it. At least you know now!

No.6149

>>6145
It really is good if you don't lack the enzyme. It sounds like it's not for you but I encourage other NEETs to try it for themselves. Give William Whites in-depth DXM FAQ a read too: https://erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_faq.shtml

No.6152

I don't use drugs except tobacco.

No.6155

Am I the only neet who never tried drugs because he didn't have any friends to introduce him to them?

No.6156

>>6148
>the sacred CYPD26 enzyme required to enjoy DXM
This sounds like a cope, but I’m not a biologist so I have no way to prove you wrong.

I will say that the negative effects of my trip were almost entirely limited to the “come up”, and once that finished it was tolerable, but it took almost 2 hours to get to that point and I was all but shitting bricks the whole time. If I could theoretically avoid the come up it might be worth it to try it again. Many people in the dxm subreddit complain about the come up.

No.6157

I used prescription benzos and ADHD stims for many years, and wish to god I hadn't. Also have a long history of binge eating sugary to try and affect my mood or because I was addicted to sugar rush. This would be described as substance abuse if it were anything else but food.

No.6161

>>6155
Get some Bitcoin and learn to use dark.fail or get some USD and but roboxough or delta8 online

>>6156
1) I provided a scientific journal article source for my claim about the CYPD26 enzyme
2) there are clearly tons of other people online who enjoy DXM
3) the robocough guys created a profitable business off people enjoying the DXM high

Sounds like the guy who lacks the ability to trip balls legally is the one coping. Seriously, check out the DXM FAQ, most people lack the ability to enjoy DXM and we weep for them: https://erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_general_info.shtml#toc.4.7

If it makes you feel any better, I personally lack the ability to enjoy opiates. I don't get any pleasurable feelings from them, it's just nausea until I fall asleep.

No.6162

>>6157
Sugar is absolutely a drug. It's an addictive white powder that makes you feel good but comes with a physiological cost

No.6163

>>6161
There's also people who can't process Codeine into Morphine. Also some people who get really strong effects from it and are at risk of overdose from what most users would call meh for a new user. Not me though, for me it's really fucking strong. I avoid opiates though, too addictive.
https://medsafe.govt.nz/profs/PUArticles/June2018/SpotlightOnCodeine.htm
Appears to be the same enzyme causing variation as with DXM. I never tried DXM though.

No.6170

>>6161
>I'm right because this single study says so
Yeah I'm sure

No.6185

>>6161
You didn’t even address my core point

No.6188

>>6170
Anon literally gives you proof and you dismiss it. It's a rather well known fact.

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>>6185
what's your core point? that you feel like you wasted money? well, that sucks bro, but at least you now possess the knowledge that you specifically are unable to enjoy DXM. why not try reading the DXM FAQ? https://erowid.org/chemicals/dxm/faq/dxm_general_info.shtml#toc.4.7

>>4.7 Does Everyone Like DXM?
>No, in fact from speaking with many people who have tried it, only about one third of the people who try it ever take it again. One third seem to absolutely hate it, and the last third couldn't care less. Among the third who do like it, the majority (around 80% of those who like DXM) take it once a month or less.
>Part of the problem is that not everyone gets the interesting sets of effects (see Section 5). To some, the DXM trip is just a moderate buzzing sensation and a feeling of being slightly drunk. So your mileage may vary.
>A few people really enjoy DXM, and use it weekly; a very few (less than 5% of those who like DXM) use it more than twice a week. Keep in mind that I have not assessed the error margin on these figures, and that they reflect a biased sample of the population. I hope to have more accurate figures after completing a survey of DXM users.

>>5.15 Why does DXM Affect Different People So Differently?
>Several reasons. First off, there is a liver enzyme known as cytochrome P450-2D6 (also CYP2D6, or debrisoquine 4-hydroxylase), which metabolizes DXM. Some people lack this enzyme, and of those who have it, subtle genetic variations can result in different activity (10-18). Thus, while one person may metabolize DXM quickly, another may not (there are other pathways which are much slower). Certain drugs - such as fluoxetine (ProzacTM) can inhibit this enzyme (39). A partial list of P450-2D6 inhibiting drugs is given in Section 15.1.
>Second, some of the effects of DXM are due to the DXM itself, and some are due to its metabolite dextrorphan (DXO), which is more similar to PCP and ketamine in its neuroreceptor activity (43). Some individuals may metabolize high doses of dextromethorphan to dextrorphan more quickly than others. Incidentally, my opinion - based on anecdotal evidence of recreational DXM use while on fluoxetine - is that both DXM and dextorphan are responsible for the psychoactive effects (yes, I changed my mind). There is evidence to show that DXM is definitely involved, and may be responsible for most of the lower plateau effects (32).
>Third, NMDA receptors are intimately involved in many areas of the brain where a great deal of processing takes place, such as the hippocampus and the cerebellum. In contrast to the biogenic amine neurotransmitters (serotonin, dopamine, noradrenaline, histamine, and acetylcholine) which seem to play a modulatory role, excitatory amino acids and NMDA receptors are involved in the "nitty gritty" of brain processes. It is possible that, due to this extensive involvement, many different cortical and limbic circuits may be affected.
>In fact, DXM affects at least four different binding sites (see Section 9.2), and each of these is subject to subtle variance from person to person (44).
>A few people have suggested that temporal lobe epilepsy may greatly change the DXM experience (pers. comm.). If nothing else, it has been implicated in cognitive impairment from DXM use (136). Additionally, some of the more profound dissociative experiences (see Section 8.2.1) may be altered, and possibly amplified, by having an underlying susceptibility to seizures.
>There are probably a gazillion other reasons why DXM has such a wide range of effects. Subtle differences in brain chemistry, notably in terms of sigma receptors, may also be involved. Psychological set, as well as setting, are undoubtedly also part of the problem.


>>6188
I honestly would lash out at people too if I just learned my genetics prevent me from enjoying something. Having insufficient quantities of the CYPD26 enzyme is no different than having insufficient penis length to enjoy sex.

No.6193

>>6192
I told you that my experience mirrored what others on the DXM subreddit say they have experienced. The come up was shitty, and after that it felt better. The DXM Reddit community seems to think the come up is worth it because of what comes after, for me it’s not, but that’s just a difference of opinion.

You’re literally encouraging people to ingest what amounts to a neurotoxin just to get a shitty high.

No.6194

>>6193
It's not a shitty high for the chosen people who possess the sacred CYP2D6 enzyme. So you're not one of the chosen ones. Big whoop. Neither are most other people. Get over it.

No.6195

>>6194
>makes an unfalsifiable claim
>”get over it”
ok buddy

No.6196

Everyone has a drug of choice. So yours differ, whatever. Some people love MDMA, yet some people hate it. Some people love LSD, yet some people hate it. Some people love Opiates, yet some people hate them.
It's whatever, people feel different about different drugs. I for one can't stand alcohol or cocaine, lots of people love that stuff though. Personality traits, and just individual differences in bodies.

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>>6196
Exactly. I'm pretty autistic and I've never understood getting mad at people who like different things.

No.6199

This anon here is on SSRI for almost 20 years, also gets pregabalin and a benzo for social situations like phonecalls. Anon also drinks and sometimes smokes.

No.8157

Roach powder.

No.8289

OP here

Admin pls delete this thread I am embarrassed by it

No.8291

Never but I like how the smoke of weed smells
I don't get why people hate it

No.8309

>>8289
No!!! keep it up it's kek as fuck!

No.8310
No.8311

>>8310
kek

No.8312
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This is the coolest thing since they invented tank chocolates!
If you can bribe a quack to label you with ADHD you can get gummi meth candy!
https://www.trueactivist.com/candy-flavored-meth-for-kids-approved-by-fda-despite-side-effects-like-heart-attacks/

No.8316

>>8310
xddd

No.8318

>>8316
kek! torso boy!

No.8319
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What's the most powerful legal stimulant that can keep you awake for days on end and eliminate all feelings of fatigue? Preferably OTC.

No.8320

>>8319
No problem.
1) acquire benzedrex: hhhhttps://www.amazon.com/Benzedrex-61023-Nasal-Decongestant-Inhaler/dp/B000X76K04
2) rip open container with pliers and extract the cotton
3) put cotton in shot glass or tiny mason jar, cover with 30-70 mL of distilled 90% pure vinegar
4) stir/shake/agitate the cotton in the vinegar for at least 2 hours (the cotton should have completely lost it's original shape)
5) squeeze out the remaining vinegar from the cotton and drink the vinegar shot
6) wait an hour
Congratulations! You have just consumed the secret legal stimulant known as propylhexedrine! To prevent burps, it's best if you basify your stomach first by taking tums or eating a spoonful of baking soda. Make sure to do more research on the drug before taking it! Although most of the info you'll find will also be from random NEETs like me. Don't overdo it!

The high doesn't last for a long time though, only about 3 hours, then the residual effects will probably keep you awake and crashing without being high for another 4 hours

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>>8319
There's also adrafinil and modafinil but I don't like them. Some people including me find low doses of DXM freebase to function as a stimulant, whereas DXM HBr and polistirex are closer to psychedelics

No.8323

Fuck I hate Nixon so goddamn much! If he had never been president pervitin would be available in any corner drugstore. If the FDA regulated recreational drugs the only risks of overdosing would be literally ingesting all the pills at once! Our government has obviously learned nothing from alcohol prohibition in the 1920's.

No.8326
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>>8323
You know how Nixon criminalized weed to suppress antiwar and black activists? Weed/psychedelics make people less productive and care less about following rules. No one likes dissociatives in America. Opiates were aggressively pushed on consumers all throughout the 1990s. Even cocaine seems to have an "okay on the weekends" perception. So where did this aggressive anti-meth campaign come from? We give pseudo meth (with harsher side effects) to children, true meth does make people more productive members of society, yet meth has garnered this normie perception of being the worst drug. "Not even once." Everyone who has actually tried it knows it's not the UNSPEAKABLE EVIL that can ruin your life in a single toke. It's just Adderall with fewer side effects. So what gives?

Like with weed/psychedelics, there were specific groups targeted with this antimeth campaign. First there were the biker/anarchist/neonazis who manufactured meth on the west coast. The effects of their efforts linger today with Oregon and California being the heaviest meth-using states. I currently live in the deep south and run in several degenerate circles. People here won't even do meth I offer for free. I'm sure there are some people who do meth out here, but the meme of the mountain man meth manufacturer is kinda bullshit. The moonshine stereotype is real though. Anyway, I've also lived out west in CO, CA, & HI. There was always at least one person at every social gathering either offering or wanting to go in on some meth. It's clearly a West coast thing because of the 1970s biker gangs who made shitty meth and the Mexican cartels who make good meth today.

I don't think the government cared all that much that the bikers were neonazis. The main reason they had to be suppressed was how flagrantly they violated the law. Like the modern cartels, they were more capable of violence than most police forces. Selling drugs was the source of their power, which is precisely why this decades long antimeth campaign was so necessary to squash them. If people are afraid to do meth because they think it makes your teeth fall out, no one will buy it, which meant the biker gangs had less money to buy guns and expand their empire.

The other group the antimeth campaigns targeted were the gays. Also during the 1970s/1980s fags of all flavors were doing meth and "converting" innocent straight boys by giving them meth. One of the effects of doing any amphetamine (including Adderall) is it makes you hypersexual. Some people can't get hard, but still can't help touching their penis on stims. It's actually the reason for most people's porn addiction: https://transrightsactivist.medium.com/nofap-feminist-psy-op-ffce7bfd7ebc

Anyway, the Mormons/Christians started a campaign to associate meth with degenerate sexuality, prostitution, etc. They're not wrong, but the fact remains that part of the reason why meth has a stigma is mere homophobia.

Thank you for coming to my TED talk

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>>8326
Aku is Based!

No.8331
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>>8328

No.8339

>>8331
Nice one anon!

No.8355

>>8326
People don't want meth in cultures without biker gangs either. It's a shit drug that makes you far more mentally fucked than just regular old amphetamine which is why amphetamine / adderal is so much more popular in Europe. Meth is considered undesireable and most people will get pissed if they find meth in their amphetamines because it makes it harder for them to be productive compared to "clean" amphetamines.

No.8360

>>8355
>Someone who fell for the propaganda campaign

No.8361

>>8355
Educate yourself: https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/publications/methamphetamine-dangers-exaggerated

We all were ignorant once too.

No.8383

can dxm be described as a psychosis simulator? It would make sense

No.8386

>>8383
Nah, but DPH definitely is

No.8387
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Does this drug effect nomenclature make sense to you?

No.8389

>>8387
yeah

No.8407

>>8386
The come up kind of do be like that

No.8412
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LEGALIZE ACID NAO!!!

No.8434

>>8412
whats with that dumb lolcats speak?
it should have read "LEGALIZE ACID MYEOW"

No.8437

All drugs should be legal
If someone is dumb enough to be pressured to consume them, then tough luck

No.8440

>>8434
nyaow

No.8686
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Just did 500mg of benzedrex and 30mg of delta 9 edibles, then had just the best 10 hour stimfap sesh. And it's all legal! $20 well spent. Highly recommend.

No.8778

If you are like me friendless but enjoy drugs. Buy cheap rave ticket near you. Find dude with mini cooler selling "beer" ask how much. Buy your supply for a while and don't do all of it at the rave. Acid Shrooms goated, coke too risky with ppl adding fent. Also Molly in a clear capsule should be a pretty amber color. Recommended to buy a test kit if you don't trust the source. Most rave dealers are about good vibes or whatever so they won't be trying to poison you. Also if you want to scare the fuck out of yourself or someone you don't like. Slip em some salvia into their weed. Strongest psychedelic you can buy at most smoke shops. It is always a bad time, but you will never forget it. Also for any of you weebs who actually read manga check out Ultra Heaven. Shit is amazing.

No.8779

>>8778
>just find a rave near you bro
I doubt that's a viable option for 99% of us.

No.8812

Internet is your friend and I'm assuming you know how to use it with better efficiency than most cattle.

No.9085

>>8812
Nope, sorry

No.9103

>>8778
Sounds like a good strategy but please don't fuck with someone with salvia, chances are you give em a strong extract and it gets really bad really quick.

No.9106

>>8686
>10 hour stimfap sesh.
Feel you there, anon.

No.9107

>>9106
That bitch would look better with her head on a stick!

No.9108

>>9107
Hands off my waifu, creep!

No.9120

>>9108
KYS you pathetic white knight soyboy!
2D>3D;PD

No.9121

>>9106
Stupid cunt can't even smile correctly.

No.9124

>>9120
People like you destroyed this board.

No.9125

>>9120
All I see is dicks!

No.9126

>>9124
Nah, it was already ruined when people started posting 3D w*man pics!