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meditating and sitting. No.13824

Since anon got himself a pic related sitting device, meditation became much comfier. Anon's doesn't have a gay pillow on it though. And yes, anon should look for one with the legs centered, it gives you more freedom around the ankles.

No.13850

Anon is going to let his inner buddha free. Those banks are fine if you're not able to seiza-sit for long without nerve problems. The pro: as a neet you are closer to enlightment than the ones who are too attached to worldly goods/fame.

No.13852

Best meditation protip I've found is to be in or near the ocean. The steady waves and cool breeze and hot sun make it so easy. The perfect symbiosis of earth, water, wind, and fire.

No.13856

>>13852
This, man. Perfect setup for this anon is a place in nature with some trees and water. Too bad the only chance to meditate without other people outside of your cave is between 2 and 5 am. Anon sits/kneels on his rug most of the time.

A space capsule hotel would be a comfy place too.

No.13861

>>13856
Oh god... Meditating in space would be insanely effective. Hope it gets cheap enough for NEETs to visit one day...

No.13865

>>13861
Maybe worldpresident-kun will get rid of us by letting us dwell in the orbit, where our mental superpowers can bloom freely.

No.13866

>>13861
>visit
They won't get me out of my orbiter capsule.

No.13867

Anon would like to meditate on the moon until his oxygen is empty. He'd open his helmet for some fresh nothingness and stay there forever.

No.13883

Those benches are awesome though.

No.13885

>>13856
I'm glad you share my sidereal tastes, anon!
When I practice mindful meditation I do it lying down in my bed, a woolsucker on your ear also helps with the experience.
>>13852
Jean Michel Jarre/Vangelis' Cosmos Soundtrack is a good substitute if you are a hikki.

No.13886

>>13885
I use 3M over ear protection combined with silicon in esr plugs. Made a threda but nobody wanted to talk about the problem of noide etc...

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>>13886
>Jean Michel Jarre/Kraftwerk
Are anons personsl heros. "Einstürzende Neubauten" is great too.

No.13889

>>13850
I've always considered hikkidom to be a monastic tradition. Asceticism is totally based and my stupid estranged father wonders why despite all the lucre he has striven to obtain he is still unhappy and spergs out like a whiny baby for the most trivial of reasons.

卍 for inner peace, anon.

No.13901

How do you even meditate? I tried it multiple times but I never know what I'm supposed to do.

No.13902

>sitting device
its called a chair

No.13908
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>>13889
I believe you meant to post 卐
>>13901
Glad you asked! I have a few techniques to share.

1) mantra repetition: choose a mantra, and repeat over and over it in your mind or out loud. Feel free to use mine "I control my reality." Your mind should nothing in it but the mantra.

2) white noise: turn on some white noise, and try to copy the sounds in your mind or out loud. A lot of people like to use "ohhhmmmm" with this meditation style. Your mind should have nothing in it.

3) go outside and look at the sun with your eyes closed. Then press on them. You should see some phosphene shapes. Try to maintain a particular shape in your mind's eye. This one is really hard to explain, especially if you don't know what phosphenes are: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphene

4) focused breathing: believe it or not, most people breathe wrong and it has negative psychological effects. Breathe deeply in through your nose and exhale completely through your mouth. Again, your mind should be completely empty except for your breathing.

5) I don't live by the beach, but my personal favorite is focusing on the waves and becoming one with the ocean.

There are also more kinetic ways to meditate:

6) endurance running: once you get your second wind and push yourself past your limit, you will enter a meditative state automatically i.e. the runner's high. All you think about is putting one foot in front of the other

7) some ancient monks used to utilize walking around a labyrinth maze: https://www.binghamton.edu/bhealthy/labyrinth.html

8) it might help you to join a meditation group. Just find your local Buddhist temple (they like to hide in small towns, you probably have one) and participate in the free group meditation service. They will probably be able to help you more than this post anyway

9) read a book and don't think critically about it. Just move your eyes along the page in an orderly fashion and do nothing with your mind but process the text. This is how most christians seem to meditate. That's why they don't recognize how fucked up and poorly written the bible is: they're just using it as a meditative tool. The text might as well be in Latin

10) really anything that puts you in a flow state will achieve the same effect as meditation: https://www.headspace.com/articles/flow-state

Meditation is ultimately just "exercising" your ability to retain attention and focus. It should be difficult to do for even a few minutes. A lot of females think meditation means lying down with your eyes closed and letting your mind wander. No. It is the exact opposite of that. Your mind must be focused on one particular thing.

As soon as any other thought enters your mind, let it go. Cringe memories, errands you have to do later, the massive scale of the universe, noticing a bug crawling on your foot, etc WILL come up as you meditate, and the onus is on you to constantly keep "clearing your mental cache" of these thoughts. Empty your mind, be formless. Shapeless, like water. “There is nothing to try to do, for whatever comes up moment by moment is accepted, including non-acceptance.”

When we’re in our normal, everyday headspace, we are often in “list” mode, thinking about all the things we have to do or fix. In the moment of meditation you don’t need to be goal or purpose oriented. When we are meditating we are the unattached observer, existing without concentrating on any particular thing.

I know most NEETs aren't big fans of drugs, and you certainly should not rely on drugs to meditate, but the fact is dissociatives and some tryptamines automatically put you in a meditative state. Especially with dissociatives, "clearing your mind and just existing" becomes second nature. Also I actually recommend trying to meditate on amphetamine once, for the ease of focus and clarity of mind. Counterintuitively, meditation is actually far more difficult to accomplish on weed, at least for me. Most strains cause my mind to wander almost aggressively.

No.13929

>>13901
Uncle Sam has some guides to mindfulness. Mindfulness is extremely powerful and you can use your meditative techniques to enhance your enjoyment of tendies and masturbation by concentrating on those sensations, if you want to divorce yourself from porn, mindfulness is the way to go, since visual stimuli from porn is an external distraction from the orgasm itself. If you can concentrate enough on a vivid fantasy porn will be deprecated I was jacking off before I had access to the internet or porn so the only resources I had were a plonker, a hand and imagination.
>>13908
>mantra repetition
"I am one with the force and the force is with me."
The Jedi (and force sensitives with similar values) are essentially the Buddhists of outer space
>white noise
and normies ask me why I have a fan running constantly even in winter!
>drugs to meditate
Sam Tried MDMA, I haven't tried it personally Though I would like to

No.13936

>>13929
I didn't want to include it because I know most people wouldn't believe me anyway, but I definitely enter a zenlike flowstate when I go on 24 hr stimfap marathons. Given that I've put over 10,000 hours into fapping, it makes sense that I'd be a master at it, to the point that it feels meditatively restorative.

No.13939

>>13936
>using the bible to impeach the bible
FUCK YEAH!!!

No.13986

>>13939
I hate religion, but that post you're referencing was really more of a "use the bible to justify anything you want" than a true impeachment of it. Though I suppose in a way that is an impeachment of the bible. When you can justify any behavior with your magic book, you're just being amoral

No.14003

>>13936

Coomer way buddhism

No.14004

>>13986
Indeed, the bible has some good bits but is essentially a shitty work of fiction about a whiny spoiled brat and his favorite pets murdering his less favored pets and then in the second half of the story, sacrifices his avatar to forgive his pets for when he couldn't train his first pet correctly and had to punish his pet's young and his pet's young's young etc. and also invent a celestial BDSM brothel for pets he doesn't like thinking that this will make his pets obedient and failing to realize some pets saw the punishment as a reward or didn't give two shits about it.

TL:DR the bible is shit tier literature but that doesn't mean you can't find good bits in it.

>Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.
>Philippians 4:8 KJV

No.14005

>>14003
how to zen the art of wanking.
http://catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/Z/zen.html

No.14010

>>14004
Curious as to your take on, fellow atheist:
>[A meditation technique is to] read a book and don't think critically about it. Just move your eyes along the page in an orderly fashion and do nothing with your mind but process the text. This is how most christians seem to meditate. That's why they don't recognize how fucked up and poorly written the bible is: they're just using it as a meditative tool. The text might as well be in Latin

No.14108

>>14010
Yeah that point seemed pretty gay to me. the only literature that would be okay for this kind of meditation would be nonsense poetry, prose or verse.
>Mr Shoe flew to the moon
>in some smelly jelly wellies
>those boots were quite swelly
>so now they're in his belly

No.14111

>>14108
That's what I'm saying, for most of the people reading the bible, it IS nonsense. That's why they need preachers to actually tell them what to think. I don't think religious people are aware of this themselves, but I do think that's the function the bible serves for most people

No.14126

>>14111
Yeah the creation myth sounds like it was written for two year olds by two year olds themselves
Bryan Lunduke (not an atheist sadly but probably doesn't take his faith that seriously) made a book called the Bible with robots where he parodies the bible by inserting a verse about robots after every canonical verse, he used to have a git repo of it up somewhere, i have no idea what he did to it now. He's done a lot of crazy shit to his older stuff tbh. Also he left a more ethical video host to go back to youtube simply because they promoted a shitposter and when he asked them about it they trolled him. He can get pretty butthurt sometimes, I miss the edgier swearier Lunduke, I'm all for the Bill and Ted mantra but that doesn't mean you have to use baby talk and act like an autistic care-bear!

I love the irony that the bible itself is one of the best tools for breeding atheists.

No.14130

Sooo... comfy meditation? Try a zafu and zabuton.

No.14421

My wc is flowing constantly, It's amazing all the things you don't notice when not meditating...
>it's like a water-fountain tbh.

No.14426

>>14421
You can fix that by putting a rock on the flap inside the upper toilet chamber. Or actually repair it properly: https://todayshomeowner.com/video/how-to-stop-a-constantly-running-toilet/

No.14429

>>14426
The old-fashoned method seems to work for me, anon. besides it adds to the zen nature of meditation so why would i want to fix it.
I'm not the one who pays the water bill!

No.14461

>>14429
Man, I had the same problem and it drove me nuts. Total opposite of what would be good for meditation imo

No.14463

>>14461
Well it's probably like what thisanon said.
>>13852
>Best meditation protip I've found is to be in or near the ocean. The steady waves and cool breeze [...] make it so easy.